negotiations they would like to lose another 71. so that's a large impact on us. >> reporter: shipping companies deny any outsourcing, they want to drop contract provision which would require hiring temporary workers even when there's no work for them. steven barry represents the employers. >> these employees have a guaranteed job for life. we have a no layoff clause. there's probably 25 million americans who are looking for work right now who wish they had a no layoff clause. >> reporter: to get these cranes and containers moving again, the nation's largest retailers' group has asked president obama t help end the strike. a 2002 labor dispute here ended only when president bush ordered the docks reopened after ten days, and that one, scott, cost the economy $15 billion. >> pelley: john, thank you. there is nothing stopping a pacific storm that is headed to the coast. this is a computer forecast that projects the density of moisture reaching from hawaii toward northern california. more than a foot of rain is predicted and mudslides are a danger. carter evans is in sacramento tonight.